Cat Rambo ([info]catrambo) wrote,
@ 2007-07-05 11:44:00
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Current music:The Whip - Divebomb
Entry tags:clarion west, graham joyce, novels, writing

A Cabful of Bash Indeed
Yesterday I got the chance to sit in on the Clarion West classroom with Graham Joyce teaching it. As always, the stories were interesting and the discussion lively and entertaining. Plus any instuructor with a great accent like that = BONUS. (imo)

Towards the end, he talked about getting from the point where you start a novel to the completed point and said with the first draft he tries to circumvent the editoral side of his brain and just spit it all out onto the page. Then revisions follow -- first a big structural one where he figures out what scenes he's missing and writes them, rearranges and delete stuff, etc., then ones focusing on characterization, etc, and then finally the last pass where he works at the sentence level. This encouraged me since it's the process I'm using right now - tomorrow, in fact, I'm printing out that first grand draft and looking to start filling in all the gaps, of which there are an abundance. But booyah for first drafts! I dance with jubilation.

There's a couple of yellow swallowtails that keep flittering past the window -- maybe the same one each time, I'm not sure.  Time to refill the hummingbird feeder and then keep plugging away since for once there seems to be no roofers walking around above my head.




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[info]dsmoen
2007-07-05 07:22 pm UTC (link)
Wow, Graham and I write the same way.

No point polishing sentences if you're going to remove the whole scene. :)

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[info]ecmyers
2007-07-05 07:40 pm UTC (link)
That's really helpful, and encouraging. Thanks!

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[info]birdhousefrog
2007-07-05 08:01 pm UTC (link)
Nope. Sorry. It still does not explain to me this seeming super power of yours to pour out words and words and words. You might be fooling us with that counter you've been posting, but I doubt it. It was truly impressive to watch it grow so quickly.

I would agree about burying the editor, but I don't think I could do it so thoroughly throughout the entire draft. I have a tendency to wander down garden paths and allow minor characters room to speak when they shouldn't if I don't keep some eye to what the work is all about.

Oz

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[info]dsmoen
2007-07-06 05:10 am UTC (link)
Ehh, let 'em speak. That's what revision's for. Besides, they frequently have some useful information that will make revisions more, uh, interesting.

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[info]birdhousefrog
2007-07-06 12:20 pm UTC (link)
Nope, not my guys. They reflect the writer's loss of focus. Pages and pages of drivel that completely derails where the main characters need to go.

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[info]countesslovlace
2007-07-06 05:09 pm UTC (link)
I do all that, but not necessarily in that order. First I put together whatever comes to me about a story idea, scenes, conversations, etc and then fill in with as detailed a story outline as I can come up with. Then I write a that first draft without being editoral. I now have an anorexic form of the story, ie the skeleton is there. Then I do whatever muscle building and fattening up it seems to need.

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